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Follow live coverage of today’s ceremony as Inter Miami’s Lionel Messi claims the Ballon d’Or for the eighth time

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Ballon d’Or 2023 — today’s results and the full list of winners

  • Lionel Messi wins Ballon d’Or for record eighth time
  • Aitana Bonmati wins Ballon d'Or Feminin
  • Jude Bellingham wins Kopa trophy for best young player
  • Vinicius Jr wins Socrates award; Emiliano Martinez best men’s goalkeeper
  • Barcelona win women’s club award, Manchester City win men’s
  • Erling Haaland wins Gerd Muller Trophy for best goal scorer
GO FURTHERLionel Messi and Aitana Bonmati claim top prizes at 2023 Ballon d’Or
October 30, 2023 at 7:10 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Messi doesn't know when he'll retire

While on stage after winning the award, Lionel Messi was asked whether he has any plans for retirement, responding that he didn't know "how much longer" he would continue playing football.

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October 30, 2023 at 7:08 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Messi has left the building

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But don't you leave us! Our reaction to his record eighth Ballon d'Or rolls on!

October 30, 2023 at 7:05 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Reader reaction: 'Serial winning is boring but historic'

Here are the thoughts of reader Bhavesh S:

💬 "Nobody likes runaway repeat winners. We all want variety and nail-biting action. But to not recognize the magnitude of what Messi has achieved by winning a World Cup in his twilight years would be a failure of the beautiful game."

October 30, 2023 at 7:00 PM EDTPaul Tenorio·Senior Writer, MLS

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Inside the Messi to Inter Miami deal — Saudis, equity and Beckham

No more than a few hours passed from the time the private jet landed in Barcelona on a mid-September afternoon in 2019 to the time it took off again, bound for Paris.

The plane descended onto the tarmac and went straight into a van headed for a hotel, where they were whisked through a side door and ascended a private access stairwell to a suite. A few minutes later, Jorge Messi, the father of Lionel Messi, entered the room.

Around a large table that day began a courtship that led to the biggest signing in Major League Soccer history. On June 7, 2023 — 1,364 days after that first meeting — Mas was sitting at his desk in his office in Coral Gables, Fla., when he got the call with the news: Lionel Messi, seen as many as the best soccer player of all time, was coming to Miami.

Here, The Athletic details:

  • Why Messi chose Miami over Barcelona, Paris Saint-Germain and Al Hilal in Saudi Arabia
  • How the courtship culminated in an announcement from Messi that, despite months of planning, caught many by surprise
  • Why Miami have given Messi equity in the club as part of his deal
  • Mas’ seat in Messi’s box at the World Cup final
  • The talks that brought Apple to the table, with Messi offered a share of new international subscribers
  • How Messi’s deal is structured to make him the highest-paid player in MLS history, and how corporate partners played a role in the negotiations.
GO FURTHERInside the Lionel Messi to Inter Miami deal — seeing off Saudis, equity offers and Beckham and Co.’s secret trip
October 30, 2023 at 6:57 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Selfie star power

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Six Premier League titles meets 24 tennis Grand Slam wins.

October 30, 2023 at 6:49 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Beckham honoured Sir Bobby Charlton

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Before he announced that Lionel Messi had won the Ballon d'Or, David Beckham gave a moving tribute to the late Manchester United legend and World Cup winner Sir Bobby Charlton.

"He was respected on the pitch and even more so off the pitch for what he stood for," the fellow former United player said. "He's going to be missed. When we looked into the stands we'd always see him there.

"On a personal side, he started everything for me. I went to his soccer school when I was 10 years old. Without him telling Manchester United to look out for me, I might never have played for them.

"My middle name is Robert after him."

GO FURTHERSir Bobby Charlton: Ordinary and extraordinary, he embodied the spirit of football

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October 30, 2023 at 6:45 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Lionel Messi, the Ballon d’Or and the future of American soccer

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After Lionel Messi won the Ballon d'Or, former runner-up and Inter Miami co-owner David Beckham said: "It's very special to say he's a Miami player and he's in our city. He'll celebrate this with his team-mates and his family in his way. We'll do our best to celebrate it in the Miami way. I'm sure we can do a good party."

Can the greatest player in the history of football do what others could not and bring lasting change to the American sporting landscape?

The Athletic's John Muller travelled to Florida and beyond to find out. Read about his journey at the link below.

GO FURTHERLionel Messi, the Ballon d’Or and the future of American soccer
October 30, 2023 at 6:41 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Messi vs Ronaldo

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Lionel Messi is now three wins clear of second-place Cristiano Ronaldo atop the list of most Ballons d'Or won:

  • Lionel Messi: 8
  • Cristiano Ronaldo: 5
  • Michel Platini: 3
  • Johan Cruyff: 3
  • Marco van Basten: 3

Ronaldo last won the award in 2017.

October 30, 2023 at 6:37 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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The wait for Africa goes on

Africa had four Ballon d'Or nominees this year: Andre Onana (Cameroon) finished 23rd, Yassine Bounou (Morocco) was 13th, Mohamed Salah (Egypt) came in at 11th, and Victor Osimhen (Nigeria) topped their representatives at eighth.

Liberia's George Weah remains the continent's sole winner. He took the prize in 1995, the same year the award's eligibility expanded to include not just Europeans but those of any nationality playing at European clubs. The eligibility expanded further in 2007 to include all footballers around the globe.

Since 1995, Senegal's Sadio Mane has come the closest for Africa, finishing second last year.

October 30, 2023 at 6:31 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Messi: 'I couldn't imagine having the career I've had'

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Lionel Messi spoke on stage after winning his eighth Ballon d'Or: "Thank you very much, to share this with my national team-mates for what we were able to achieve with the national team. The entire group, the coaching staff, everyone involved. I’m delighted to be here once more to be able to enjoy this moment one more time.

"To be able to win the World Cup and really achieve my dream, to share this with all those who were involved. I couldn't imagine having the career I've had and everything I've achieved, the fortune I've had to be part of the best team in history."

He finished by wishing the late Diego Maradona a happy birthday.

October 30, 2023 at 6:27 PM EDTNick Miller

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Should Haaland have won the Ballon d'Or?

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Sometimes you don’t need to overcomplicate things: Erling Haaland made 53 appearances for Manchester City last season and scored 52 goals in all competitions. That, as any maths whizz will tell you, is nearly a goal in every single game. Which is a lot.

He was top scorer in the 2022-23 Premier League with 36, the highest individual tally in a single season in that competition. It made runner-up Harry Kane’s 30 for Tottenham look ordinary.

Haaland was also top scorer in the Champions League with 12 goals in 11 games. Since making his Champions League debut in 2019, he has 37 goals in 33 games.

He’s never been sent off in his seven-year senior career and, while this might not be directly related to fair play, that clip where he did an impression of John Stones’ Yorkshire accent was dripping with class.

GO FURTHERBallon d’Or 2023: Forget Lionel Messi – here’s an alternative men’s winner

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October 30, 2023 at 6:23 PM EDTLaia Cervelló Herrero·Football Writer, FC Barcelona

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Should Mbappe have won the Ballon d'Or?

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“I think playing at PSG doesn’t help a lot,” Kylian Mbappe said in an interview with L’Equipe and France Football in July.

Every year the France striker seems set to leave for Real Madrid but then remains tethered to a Paris Saint-Germain project that, for all the millions invested, still seems a long way from taking the final step at European level, by making them Champions League winners.

The same protagonist said months before that he “fulfilled all the requirements” to compete for the Ballon d’Or with Messi or Haaland. Based on his 2022-23 output, he has a point.

GO FURTHERBallon d’Or 2023: Forget Lionel Messi – here’s an alternative men’s winner
October 30, 2023 at 6:20 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Reader reaction: 'Messi’s popularity is unmatched'

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Here are the thoughts of reader Hari G:

💬 "It was rather inevitable that Messi would win it because beyond footballing achievement, he is just the media’s darling. Since Novak Djokovic was in attendance, I’d draw a parallel by saying that if a similar award had existed for tennis, Djokovic would have won far fewer than the better loved Federer and Nadal, despite his better performance in several years.

"You can’t say he didn’t deserve it at all, but Haaland did much better in club football, while Mbappe did better at club football and at least matched Messi at the World Cup. In sum, it’s nice that they gave him a final award and hopefully this will be the last award distorted by the irrational Messi popularity effect. Maybe other players will get recognized from here on out!"

October 30, 2023 at 6:17 PM EDTDarren Richman

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Lionel Messi: The life and times of the sporting legend

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Lionel Messi has wasted little time in making an impact at Inter Miami, the third club he has played for in his illustrious career.

The deal taking him to Miami, after his Paris Saint-Germain contract expired, was only finalised on July 15. The World Cup winner has already added the Leagues Cup to his trophy cabinet, scoring 10 goals in seven games to fire his new club to their first piece of silverware.

For Messi, it is major trophy number 44. Despite turning 36 in June, he is as influential as ever.

Here is the complete story of Lionel Andres Messi, widely regarded as one of the greatest footballers in the history of the sport, as told by 30 of our award-winning team of reporters, from Adam Crafton to Oliver Kay, from Michael Cox to John Muller, as well as many, many more.

GO FURTHERLionel Messi: The life and times of the Barcelona, Paris Saint-Germain, Inter Miami and Argentina legend
October 30, 2023 at 6:13 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Reader thoughts: 'What we saw from Messi we are unlikely to see again in our lifetime'

Here are the thoughts of reader Trevor P:

💬 "Messi was, as usual, consistently excellent when fit, regardless of circ*mstances and he finally dragged an otherwise pedestrian Argentinian team to the World Cup against all the odds in what was arguably the most complete individual performance the tournament has ever seen (or at least comparable with Maradona’s run in 1986 against lesser competition).

"Additionally, and perhaps most importantly, Messi had a profound and varied impact on games whereas Haaland really is limited to finishing things off in the final third which is a fundamental and major difference between them even at their respective ages. Haaland may have his time in the coming years but what we saw this year from Messi was something that we are unlikely to see again in our lifetime and the idea that he wouldn’t get this Ballon d'Or merely because someone got a lot of goals in a runaway title campaign seems slightly unserious."

October 30, 2023 at 6:11 PM EDTMichael Bailey·Football Writer

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With thanks from Messi

It feels like a long time ago that people were arriving on the red carpet at the Theatre du Chatelet in Paris. And it was! But it's still worth remembering some of what was said.

Especially when you can paraphrase Ilkay Gundogan...

The Ballon d'Or shows how successful you are as a team. The only way to win it is when you're successful as a club or a country. That is why football is a team sport.

Those Argentina team-mates can be happy with the part they have played in a defining chapter of the Lionel Messi story. As good as anyone we have seen - and he's not quite done yet.

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October 30, 2023 at 6:07 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Argentines assemble

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Lionel Messi and his sons are joined by fellow Argentines Emi Martinez, who finished 15th, Lautaro Martinez (20th) and Julian Alvarez (seventh).

October 30, 2023 at 6:04 PM EDTMichael Bailey·Football Writer

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Fine margins & magnificent history

It's only when you get to things like the Ballon d'Or ceremony that you realise how such finely balanced moments can shape careers, reputations and even more.

Would there have been so much change around the Spanish women's team without their World Cup victory in Australia? Would it have been a Lioness to have lifted the Ballon d'Or Feminin, with much less importance surrounding the words uttered than how Aitana Bonmati had to carry herself?

Would the opposite outcome of a penalty shootout in Qatar have deprived Lionel Messi of a historic eighth Ballon d'Or? Maybe 54-goal Kylian Mbappe would have become a new name on the list; or Erling Haaland as one of its youngest.

It has been a great night to celebrate so much success from so many, as well as to appreciate the context of what earned it and those that strove just as hard and missed out.

And the best bit is we can do it all over again in 12 months time.

October 30, 2023 at 6:02 PM EDTMichael Dominski·Live Reporter

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Future Ballon d'Or winners?

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Lionel Messi was joined by his sons during his speech after winning the Ballon d'Or.

Might there be a future winner here? Be sure to tune in to the 2037 ceremony to find out!

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FAQs

Did Messi say when he will retire? ›

I know that as soon as I believe that I can no longer perform, or no longer enjoy the game, or not able to help my team-mates, then I will stop,” Messi told the podcast Big Time, which was broadcast on Saudi Arabian TV this week.

What is Messi famous for saying? ›

You have to fight to reach your dream. You have to sacrifice and work hard for it.

What is Messi's net worth? ›

Messi is the second highest-paid athlete in the world as of 2023, and has earned an estimated $1.15 billion in his career so far, according to Forbes. Messi owns a multi-million dollar real estate portfolio, holds lucrative brand partnerships, and even owns a hotel chain.

Who is a better soccer player, Messi or Ronaldo? ›

Who is better Messi Or Ronaldo? Ronaldo has scored a record number of international goals and appearances, but Messi has won more Ballon d'Or awards (8). Messi has spent most of his playing career in Spain and France, while Ronaldo has played in Portugal, England, Spain, and Italy.

What age is Messi retiring? ›

The Argentina captain, 36, has not given an indication as to when he will retire, with his deal at Inter Miami ending in December 2025. "I know that the moment that I know that I'm not performing, that I'm not enjoying myself, that I'm not helping my teammates," Messi told MBC's Big Time Podcast.

How many kids does Messi have? ›

Messi and Roccuzzo, who were childhood friends and later reconnected in 2005, welcomed their first son, Thiago, in 2012. Their second son, Mateo, arrived in 2015, followed by their third son, Ciro, in 2018. The athlete later told FC Barcelona that fatherhood changed his entire perspective.

When did Messi say it took me 17 years? ›

It was “”17 years & 112 days to be precise”. He is talking about his debut match, i.e., his first match for FC Barcelona. It was on October 16, 2004. The match was a Catalan derby between Espanyol and FC Barcelona.

Does Messi speak English now? ›

Messi, who spent the first 34 years of his life in Argentina and Spain, has never spoken English publicly — not even in his Super Bowl commercial. At Inter Miami, he almost exclusively speaks in his native tongue, swallowing consonants as ever.

Is Messi richer than Ronaldo? ›

Ronaldo's income via endorsem*nts far outstrips Messi's, and makes him one of the world's richest athletes. The pair have become so marketable throughout their careers that their closest competitors have earned less than half of the sums gained by Ronaldo and Messi.

Is Messi a billionaire or billionaire? ›

Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rihanna have all joined the billionaires' club. The global billionaire population declined 8% year over year in the 12 months to January due to volatile stock markets and a strong U.S. dollar, according to new data.

Is Ronaldo a billionaire? ›

Per Forbes, Ronaldo became the first professional athlete ever to surpass the billion-dollar threshold just in career earnings in 2020, as his net worth is around $500 million according to some estimations that include wages, endorsem*nt deals, real estate, and advertisem*nts.

Who is faster, Messi or Ronaldo? ›

Both of them have powerful acceleration, but for the sake of this comparison, we will go with Messi, since he will most likely reach his top speed faster. But on the other hand, we have Ronaldo, who managed to run 96 meters in 10 seconds. This was when he played for Real Madrid against their rivals Atletico Madrid.

Are Messi and Ronaldo friends? ›

Cristiano Ronaldo on his rivalry with Lionel Messi: We are not friends but we respect each other.

Why is Messi so good? ›

Lionel Messi's natural talent is undeniable. His creativity on the field, his dribbling ability, and his vision for the game are innate gifts that he has honed to perfection. At Cochrane Wolves, we encourage our players to express their creativity, reminding them that soccer is an art, and they are the artists.

What is Messi saying in the meme? ›

Messi viral phrase taunting Wout Weghorst - 'Que Mira, Bobo' - becomes meme, finds way onto shirts, caps and mugs.

What is Messi most known for? ›

Born in Rosario, Argentina, in 1987, Lionel Messi is widely regarded as one of the greatest football players of all time, and his illustrious career proves why. The Argentinean footballer, who holds a record eight Ballon d'Or awards, has displayed his talent early on and has always been destined for greatness.

What is a few line about Messi? ›

Lionel Messi is a football player from Argentina who plays for Inter Miami. He has won the Ballon D'Or, the annual award given to the best player in the world, 8 times, 2022 FIFA World Cup winner and an Olympic gold medal winner in 2008. He was born in 1987 in Rosario, Argentina's third-biggest city.

Who said Messi is the best? ›

Erling Haaland, the Manchester City forward, stated that Leo Messi "is the greatest of all time" and justified that Messi surpassed him in the Ballon d'Or and FIFA's The Best awards.

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